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My Dinner with Andre
Incontinental Drift
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The economic system that's been setup around politics
Is the very same that Vince McMahon setup around wrestling
You create, I mean it is a kind of, you know, kayfabe
It's a sort of there are characters...
I'm called Middle Class Joe, in Washington that's not meant as a compliment
I'm a counterpuncher. They go after me, I go after them
You know what it's like, when you're trying to produce something every day, you're going to go with a kind of a boilerplate structure
So you're going say "All right, our show revolves around - you're from the left..."
If we were in school I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him
You're from the right...
I'd love that...I'd love that!
Whatever comes in we're gonna filter it through that
We're gonna keep it producible, but it starts to, like you say... It becomes inauthentic
We live in such ludicrous ignorance of each other. We usually don't know the things we'd like to know... even about our supposedly closest friends
People are talking in symbols
Everyone is sort of floating through this fog of symbols and unconscious feelings
No one says what they're really thinking about
Then people start making these jokes that are really some sort of secret code
Yeah, I do a million of these a day
Already some of these new communities or whatever we've been talking about... are becoming institutionalized...
And I guess even in a way, at times, sort of fascistic
You know, there's a sort of self-satisfied elitist paranoia that grows up...
A feeling of "them" and "us"... that is very unsettling
It's probably something I could say that I'm very good at
These really crazy little fantasies will just start being played with
You know, always with famous people, and always sort of grotesque
And they'll just be roaring with laughter
It's really amazing. It's just unbelievable
That's the only way anything is expressed, through these completely insane jokes
He has no clue about what makes America great
Actually, he has no clue, period
'Cause, you see, I think that people today are so deeply asleep
It's very hard to know what to do
You may only be helping to deaden the audience in a different way
Trust me, I'm like a smart person
How does it affect an audience to show that people are totally isolated now
And they can't reach each other, and their lives are desperate?
How does it affect them to see our world is full of nothing but shocking sexual events, and terror, and violence?
So cavalier
Does that help to wake up a sleeping audience?
See, I don't think so, 'cause I think it's very likely that the picture of the world that you're showing them is exactly the picture of the world they have already
He's a pussy
I mean, you know, they know their own lives and relationships are difficult and painful
If they watch the evening news on television, well, there what they see is a terrifying, chaotic universe
Full of rapes and murders and hands cut off by subway cars
And children pushing their parents out of windows, and that there's absolutely no way out
There's nothing they can do
And they end up feeling passive and impotent
We just put no value at all on perceiving reality
I mean, on the contrary, this incredible emphasis that we all place now automatically makes perceiving reality a very low priority
It just doesn't matter what you perceive or what you experience
You can really sort of shut your mind off for years ahead, in a way
You're a lying dog faced pony soldier
It seems to me that we can't follow the science. Think about it
The United States of America? You're a danger to us? It's because we're not following the science
I think it's the exaggerated worship of science that has led us into this situation
I mean, science has been held up to us as a magical force that would somehow solve everything
Well, quite the contrary. It's done quite the contrary. It's destroyed everything
I got to see that when I spoke to the great science companies... with scientists
So that is what has really led, I think, to this very strong, deep reaction against science that we're seeing now
Just as the Nazi demons that were released in the '30s in Germany were probably a reaction against a certain oppressive kind of knowledge and culture and rational thinking
So I agree that we're talking about something potentially very dangerous
But modern science has not been particularly less dangerous
I came out in the civil rights movement
I was one of those guys that sat in, and marched and all that stuff
See, I think it's quite possible that the 1960s represented the last burst of the human being before he was extinguished
During the 60's, I was, in fact, not an activist
I was involved but I was not out marching. I was not down in Selma. I was not anywhere else
This is the beginning of the rest of the future, now
And that from now on there'll simply be all these robots walking around
Feeling nothing, thinking nothing
And there'll be nobody left almost to remind them that there once was a species called a human being
With feelings and thoughts, and that history and memory are right now being erased
And soon nobody will really remember that life existed on the planet
New York is a great place, it's got great people
It's got loving people, wonderful people
I think that New York is the new model for the new concentration camp
Where the camp has been built by the inmates themselves, and the inmates are the guards, and they have this pride in this thing they've built
They've built their own prison
And so they exist in a state of schizophrenia, where they are both guards and prisoners
And as a result, they no longer have, having been lobotomized, the capacity to leave the prison they've made, or to even see it as a prison
America is an idea, an idea that's stronger than any army, bigger than any ocean, more powerful than any dictator or tyrant
It's a great day for America in my view
A new tide of optimism sweeping across our land
To make America great again for all Americans
Has it ever occurred to you what we see in the world now
May very well be a self-perpetuating, unconscious form of brainwashing
Created by a world totalitarian government based on money
And that all of this is much more dangerous than one thinks?
Give me a break! That's a bunch of malarkey!
Mr. Tough Guy... ya know? He's Mr. Tough Guy
What we need is a new language
A language of the heart
Some kind of language between people that is a new kind of poetry
That's the poetry of the dancing bee that tells us where the honey is
And I think that in order to create that language, you're going to have to learn how you can go through a looking glass
Into another kind of perception
Where you have that sense of being united to all things
And suddenly you understand everything
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